I have a couple of instrument students that are having
some trouble with the radio communicaitons during
their instrument training. It occurred to me that
recording ATC & their transmissions for post-flight
debriefing and review would be a value learning tool.

An easy way to do this is to plug a recorder into
an unsed headset jack. In my case, this would be one
of the back seat intercom jacks. Then operate the intercom
in the "ALL" mode so the passenger posistionshear all
radio and intercom traffic. A voice activated recorder
would be ideal, if it turns on fast enough to catch the first
word of each audio burst.

I'm thinking a 1/4" plug, cord with an attenuator /
impedance network and a connector to match to the
line in or mic input of a recorder is all that is needed.

Has anyone tried this? If so, how did it work out?

Comments?

Ronnie

Ronnie wrote:
> I have a couple of instrument students that are having
> some trouble with the radio communicaitons during
> their instrument training. It occurred to me that
> recording ATC & their transmissions for post-flight
> debriefing and review would be a value learning tool.
>
> An easy way to do this is to plug a recorder into
> an unsed headset jack. In my case, this would be one
> of the back seat intercom jacks. Then operate the intercom
> in the "ALL" mode so the passenger posistionshear all
> radio and intercom traffic. A voice activated recorder
> would be ideal, if it turns on fast enough to catch the first
> word of each audio burst.
>
> I'm thinking a 1/4" plug, cord with an attenuator /
> impedance network and a connector to match to the
> line in or mic input of a recorder is all that is needed.
>
> Has anyone tried this? If so, how did it work out?
>

Yeah, one or two resistors will do the impedance matching. Do it
yourself or buy it from http://www.aircraftpatchcord.com $25.
--
Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

It works great and students love it. Radio Shack has an "Attenuating Dubbing
Cord" for $5 with the resistors build-in.. Cut it in half, solder 1/4" phone
plugs onto each half and you'll have two cords.

--
Max Trescott
www.G1000Book.com


>I have a couple of instrument students that are having
> some trouble with the radio communicaitons during
> their instrument training. It occurred to me that
> recording ATC & their transmissions for post-flight
> debriefing and review would be a value learning tool.
>

Ronnie wrote:
> I have a couple of instrument students that are having
> some trouble with the radio communicaitons during
> their instrument training. It occurred to me that
> recording ATC & their transmissions for post-flight
> debriefing and review would be a value learning tool.
>
> An easy way to do this is to plug a recorder into
> an unsed headset jack. In my case, this would be one
> of the back seat intercom jacks. Then operate the intercom
> in the "ALL" mode so the passenger posistionshear all
> radio and intercom traffic. A voice activated recorder
> would be ideal, if it turns on fast enough to catch the first
> word of each audio burst.
>
> I'm thinking a 1/4" plug, cord with an attenuator /
> impedance network and a connector to match to the
> line in or mic input of a recorder is all that is needed.
>
> Has anyone tried this? If so, how did it work out?
>
> Comments?
>
> Ronnie

Try this:
http://www.sarangan.org/aviation/articles/recorder-article.pdf

Ronnie > wrote:

> It occurred to me that
> recording ATC & their transmissions for post-flight
> debriefing and review would be a value learning tool.

Since you already received some excellent suggestions, I wanted to point
out the perhaps lesser-known, free option: www.liveATC.net has a
seven-day (hopefully to be increased soon) archive of many ATC frequencies
on their site. Obviously the archives only contain the ATC frequencies
monitored, but new feeder sites are added all the time:

http://www.liveatc.net/archive.php

LiveATC's free archiving inspired me to become a volunteer feeder of my
home airport's ATC frequencies to their site. These days I download the
archive and listen to myself with the goal of constantly critiquing and
improving my communications.


--
Peter

"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
> Ronnie > wrote:
>
>> It occurred to me that
>> recording ATC & their transmissions for post-flight
>> debriefing and review would be a value learning tool.
>
> Since you already received some excellent suggestions, I wanted to point
> out the perhaps lesser-known, free option: www.liveATC.net has a
> seven-day (hopefully to be increased soon) archive of many ATC frequencies
> on their site. Obviously the archives only contain the ATC frequencies
> monitored, but new feeder sites are added all the time:
>
> http://www.liveatc.net/archive.php
>
> LiveATC's free archiving inspired me to become a volunteer feeder of my
> home airport's ATC frequencies to their site. These days I download the
> archive and listen to myself with the goal of constantly critiquing and
> improving my communications.
>

Unfortunately, they only cover about the eastern 1/4th of the US. Yes, I
know, to most easterners, the world stops at the Ohio River...


--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

Matt Barrow > wrote:

> Unfortunately, they only cover about the eastern 1/4th of the US. Yes, I
> know, to most easterners, the world stops at the Ohio River...

LiveATC is totally dependent on volunteers to provide the feeds.

Using similar logic as yours above, I guess that people west of the Ohio
river just are not as chartable as those east of the river, no?

--
Peter

"Peter R." > wrote:

> Using similar logic as yours above, I guess that people west of the Ohio
> river just are not as chartable as those east of the river, no?

Charitable, that is.

--
Peter

"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
> Matt Barrow > wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, they only cover about the eastern 1/4th of the US. Yes, I
>> know, to most easterners, the world stops at the Ohio River...
>
> LiveATC is totally dependent on volunteers to provide the feeds.
>
> Using similar logic as yours above, I guess that people west of the Ohio
> river just are not as chartable as those east of the river, no?
>

Humor stunted this morning, Peter?

Matt Barrow > wrote:

> Humor stunted this morning, Peter?

No, my comment was meant to be taken in the same humorous light as yours.
Was it not apparent?

--
Peter

"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
> Matt Barrow > wrote:
>
>> Humor stunted this morning, Peter?
>
> No, my comment was meant to be taken in the same humorous light as yours.
> Was it not apparent?
>
It would have without the remarks about "logic". Rewrite it without that
part, just a quick quip, and see how much better it hits.

Matt Barrow > wrote:

> It would have without the remarks about "logic". Rewrite it without that
> part, just a quick quip, and see how much better it hits.

I'll be sure to hire you to help me write my monologue for the next "David
Letterman Show." :)

--
Peter

"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
> Matt Barrow > wrote:
>
>> It would have without the remarks about "logic". Rewrite it without that
>> part, just a quick quip, and see how much better it hits.
>
> I'll be sure to hire you to help me write my monologue for the next "David
> Letterman Show." :)
>
Sorry, I'm under a non-compete contract with Jay Leno! ;~)

In article >,
"Peter R." > wrote:

> Using similar logic as yours above, I guess that people west of the Ohio
> river just are not as chartable as those east of the river, no?

There aren't too many places you can be east-west of the Ohio River.
Most places area north or south.
I thought pilots were better at geography than this example illustrates.
:-))

john smith > wrote:

> There aren't too many places you can be east-west of the Ohio River.
> Most places area north or south.
> I thought pilots were better at geography than this example illustrates.

too-shay...

--
Peter

"Peter R." > wrote in message ...
> john smith > wrote:
>
>> There aren't too many places you can be east-west of the Ohio River.
>> Most places area north or south.
>> I thought pilots were better at geography than this example illustrates.
>
> too-shay...
>
> --
> Peter

No, you had it about right, Peter.
The Ohio River runs only from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to Cairo, Illinois.
Most of the U.S. lies either east or west of that little range.
:-)